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- Ham-Policy Digest Fri, 28 Oct 94 Volume 94 : Issue 510
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- Today's Topics:
- NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
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- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 19:17:43 -0500
- From: Ed Ellers <edellers@delphi.com>
- Subject: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
- Steve Wolf <sww@csuohio.edu> writes:
-
- >You are again emphasising the mode rather than the mode's effect on the
- >information. If I get a bulletin by RTTY or via packet, the bulletin was
- >not changed by the mode. It is still a bulletin addressed to the (amateur)
- >public.
-
- It's addressed to the AMATEUR public -- not to the general public. The mode
- DOES make a difference here, because the mode prevents the message from being
- made readily available by radio to non-amateurs. If you transmit to the PBBS.,
- and the PBBS sends you the bulletin back, that's a *two-way* contact.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 23:26:51 GMT
- From: little@iamu.chi.dec.com (Todd Little)
-
- References<Cy8J1v.3wA@wang.com> <1994Oct26.114636.5713@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CyCEKB.7Hq@wang.com>
- Reply-To: little@iamu.chi.dec.com (Todd Little)
- Subject: Re: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
-
- In article <CyCEKB.7Hq@wang.com>, dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong) writes:
-
- |>Again, this discussion is not about speech content, but one-way
- |>communications.
-
- Good, I'm glad you see our point then. The communication is two-way. I
- send a packet to the PBBS and it sends me an acknowledgement. What is
- one-way about that? The content may be construed as one-way, but the
- communication is definitely two-way. That is unless you set up your
- beacon text to be a 10 line cookie recipe. ;-)
-
- And to whomever it was (was it you Dave?) that made the comments about
- folks being too cheap to purchase Internet access or whatever, that is
- really a stretch. That is like saying we should eliminate the phone
- bands because people are too cheap to make long distance calls.
-
- 73,
- Todd
- N9MWB
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 19:23:33 -0500
- From: Ed Ellers <edellers@delphi.com>
-
- References<CyB5vA.9w8@news.Hawaii.Edu> <38nks8$8io@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <CyC9v1.KJJ@news.Hawaii.Edu>
- Subject: Re: Questions on this and that
-
- Jeffrey Herman <jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu> writes:
-
- >You missed the point, Dana. There was nothing in the rules to
- >strictly prohibit the use of . ... . / . . but pink slips
- >were given out anyway. The FCC is allowed a broad interpretation
- >of their own rules. They felt that the prosign CQ must be used
- >to establish a QSO - anything else was prohibited.
-
- Because, of course, FCC monitoring personnel know what CQ means but not what
- "dit dididit dit" means. The same principle is (or was) found in the CB rules
- in
- Part 95, which provided (and may still) that "10-codes" could only be used if
- a copy of the 10-code list was kept in the station records so it could be
- checked by the FCC folks if a question arose.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 22:06:51 GMT
- From: myers@sunspot.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers)
-
- References<CyAL1u.3Jy@wang.com> <wyn.206.2EAEAF14@ornl.gov>, <CyC92u.KFE@news.Hawaii.Edu>
- Subject: Re: NoCal OO , packet BBS that lists posts by "topic"?
-
- In article <CyC92u.KFE@news.Hawaii.Edu> jeffrey@math.hawaii.edu writes:
- >wyn@ornl.gov (C. C. (Clay) Wynn, N4AOX) writes:
- >
- >> No wonder the FCC despairs over the Ham bands.
- >
- >They do? I've always heard that the FCC has nothing but praise
- >for amateurs.
-
- Hmmm... the Washington staffer I spoke to a while ago seemed to be
- pretty amused by the activities of amateurs. By the way, this staffer
- is also an active amateur. Clay is maybe editorializing a little bit,
- but I think he's mostly correct this time.
-
- --
- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are *
- * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily *
- * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer *
- * "Antenna waves be burnin' up my radio" -- ZZ Top *
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 22:06:25 GMT
- From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
-
- References<Cy8J1v.3wA@wang.com> <1994Oct26.114636.5713@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CyCEKB.7Hq@wang.com>
- Subject: Re: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
- dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong) writes:
-
- > (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of
- >broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way
- >communications except as specifically provided in these rules;
-
- AX.25 is specifically allowed for in the rules ...
-
- Ciao -- Mark
-
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